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Kebau
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 415 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: Can women still cook? |
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I love food shows and guess what? Most of the time the chefs are men. Gordon Ramsey, an amusing and entertaining chef from UK who uses the "F" word very often, has a desire to get women to cook again. Why bother and for what? Women have been liberated and besides they are not that great cooks, let alone chefs. Am I getting into some 'hot soup', or my invitation to my next supper is on hold?! Read this article by a woman and see what she has to say.
Can women still cook?
http://www.thestar.com/living/article/302930
We're told now that liberated females don't inhabit the kitchen
by Vanessa Richmond ( Feb 16, 2008 )
| Quote: | "I don't cook. So I made my eat-in kitchen a fabulous walk-in closet," announces a young, attractive woman in the newest Citibank ad.
This idea – that liberated women don't prepare food – isn't one that Citibank just cooked up. In fact, as one female friend quickly pointed out, it's still part of the Sex and the City cultural hangover. Carrie Bradshaw, of course, famously used her oven as a shoe cupboard far before Grace, as a kind of feminist triumph: she likes sex and (therefore) doesn't like to cook. Shopping, friends and men sustained her instead.
....men come across as evolved, sexy and creative when they mix things up in the kitchen. But women seem stuck in Leave-it-to-Beaver-land when they step in front of the stove: domestic suckers who aren't paying enough attention to their ambition or their libidos. They're not third-wave feminists, embracing women's traditional skills, or sexy, busy people who make time for health and family, but women who need a good empowerment talk.
I spoke to a few of my other female friends about it. "I never had anything in the cupboards before I had kids," one friend, a professional singer, told me proudly. "I was out having fun."
"I can't even boil water," another told me, smiling. "If my husband is away, I just eat cereal or get takeout."
So, two things are happening. One is that some women aren't cooking at all because they see it as low status or unnecessary. And, sure, women have been unfairly stuck with the brunt of domestic labour in a culture that has deemed it lower status than, say, working in an office. Stepping away from the hearth is a form of rebellion and liberation and a way to gain more cultural status, which are motivations I can sympathize with (even though I think they're ultimately the opposite of liberated and healthy – more on that later).
And the other is that many women do the daily food prep but don't count that as "real" cooking. For this, I blame the rise of foodie culture. There are plenty of shows on the Food Network that feature quick and easy meals.
A lot of us are intimidated by cooking today. We watch cooking shows on TV but we cook very little. We're turning cooking into a spectator sport. This process of outsourcing our food preparation to large corporations, which is what we've been doing the last 50 years, is a big part of our problem. We're seduced by convenience.
In fact, anyone who's ever cooked will tell you the act of preparing food makes you more powerful and sexy.
The old saying, that a way to a man's heart is through his stomach, always seems to hold up for both genders in my experience. Who can resist a warm hearth to shelter weary travellers from storms of all kinds?
And as for a spatula making a woman into a relic, it's all about the glint in the eye. |
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Hot Chilly

Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 618 Location: Tropics
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: Reversal of Roles? |
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It used to be said that the way to a man's heart is through the stomach? Girls would like to impress their men or in-laws (long ago) with their culinary skills. Looks like blokes are the ones doing the cooking to impress girl friends nowadays?
Yes, I know of some ladies who are successful in their career but won't step into the kitchen, can't fry an egg, nor cook instant noodles. The convenience of modern lifestyle with takeaway outlets, Big Mac, delivery (not just pizza but family restaurants and upmarket dishes) have made cooking a redundant skill.
See Straits Times Life Editor Sumiko Tan's confession : Can't cook, don't cook, won't cook
http://www.asiaone.com/Just%2BWoman/About%2BMe/Columns/Story/A1Story20071024-31961.html
I don't mean to be insolent or cruel, but is that why beautiful and intelligent Sumiko is still single?
Is it necessarily a trade off between emancipation and domestication? I'll leave you to think and decide for yourselves.
| Quote: | It's emancipating. Domesticity has been a feminine ideal - and necessity and drudgery - for too long.
I feel so lucky living in an era when women don't have to stay home but can go out to the workforce and kick ass, just like the men do. And when you're so busy in the corporate world, who has time to indulge in the culinary arts our mothers excelled in? Who wants to be like our mothers?
And isn't it even rather charming to be a damsel in distress in the kitchen? Isn't it kind of cute when a confident, competent woman becomes a little ditzy when she's in the kitchen? I think so, anyway.
I do realise, though, that I can afford to be a klutz on the domestic front because I am single and live at home.
I don't have to cook but I will always have delicious food waiting for me from my mother. I don't have to make my bed in the morning but I go home to fresh sheets.
Most other women - especially if they are married with picky husband and fussy children and who don't have a maid - aren't so lucky. |
As for me, nothing can be compared with home cooked meals. Commercially produced food are lacking in quality, authencity and hygiene standards. You can't eat out or order in food every day.
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smalltok
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 264 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: Kitchen hell? |
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Hot Chilly:
| Quote: | | Straits Times Life Editor Sumiko Tan's confession : Can't cook, don't cook, won't cook |
Is she bragging that because of her success or she does not want anything to do in the kitchen?
I can see two successful income earners who are dedicated to their professions have decided that they do not have time for household chores and justify having a maid or cook. But at least one must know how certain things are made or created. Cooking is relaxing and it does not demean a person to step into the kitchen once in a while. Basically, Ms Sumiko Tan is just showing her arrogance and a real brat! "I do not need to be stereotyped! Take me for what I am...."
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XP

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 565 Location: Beautiful Island
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: Virtues : old and new -- cooking skills are good to have |
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Gone are the days when it was virtue to be able to cook. My friend who is an overseas Chinese said that one of the criteria of seeking a good daughter-in-law was whether the girl could cook - well, apparently from the way they pound chilli or hold a spatula, one could tell a good cook from the mediocre! And some would even check out the girl's room to see if it is neat and tidy.
However, equality has enabled women to step out of the kitchen to be economically independent. They are no longer dependent on culinary and homemaking skills to marry well and hope for comfortable living by courtesy of their husband and in-law. Women's liberation is hard won. This brings me to the Chinese proverb : 巧婦難為無米之炊 qiao fu nan wei wu mi zhi chui (meaning : even a clever wife can't cook without rice). To have food on the table, the household has to be economically self sufficient and well provided for.
However, it is not logical to jump to the conclusion cooking equates imprisonment and deprivation of women's rights. It won't make you a less modern, liberated, capable and successful woman. It is a bonus to be added to your credentials and resume!
Smalltok has correctly highlighted that cooking can be a source of enjoyment and fulfilment. I'm sure foodies would agree with that. No matter how lazy, busy or clumsy, the temptation of creating your very own dish or meal will always entice one to whip up something in the kitchen.
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Descartes
Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Clare Smyth and of whom : "Clare is an amazing girl who has been working professionally since she was 16.
"being groomed by Ramsey:
Royal Hospital Road is the crown jewels of his empire and he has been grooming her to take over. He spent time in France himself and that is part of the training.”
Angela Hartnett....She's perhaps the leading female chef in Britain today. Certainly, she's at the top of her game right now. She got her first Michelin star within the first year of the restaurant opening, an MBE from the Queen for Services to the Hospitality Industry, she's just opened another Ramsay restaurant in Boca Raton, Florida, she's just about to see the publication of her first cookery book, and while the Connaught closes for the next seven months for a multi-million pound refit, she's off to do a television programme - Kitchen Criminals
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Descartes
Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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To see a young female at her best: the recent series of Masterchef on brit BBC TV, Emily,
She is known for her weird recipes, pairing unexpected ingredients with sensational results.
Tonight, the nation will discover whether 19-year-old cooking prodigy Emily Ludolf can beat two older men in the final of MasterChef.
But, after cooking five-star food at the Dorchester and Blenheim Palace for the BBC competition, the youngest-ever finalist told today how she is now enduring dodgy student food.
Emily, from Lyne in Surrey, is a first-year English student at Oxford University and living in halls at Wadham College with a broken cooker.
"The college provides meals but it's generally a mystery meat, five potatoes and tinned vegetables," she said.
"There is a kitchen but the oven's faulty and there's only a couple of worktops.
"It's not the ideal environment for a budding chef trying to cook three-course gourmet meals.
"There's a baked bean culture and I hate baked beans so I've rooted out the foodies.
"On Shrove Tuesday we whipped up pancakes with fillings like chocolate and paprika, or mango and chilli. We really went to town."
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Observer

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 230 Location: Lah Lah Land
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: Who is Ramsey? |
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Descartes: | Quote: | | "being groomed by Ramsey: |
Are you referring to Gordon Ramsey, the foul-mouthed Scottish chef trained in France. Too high strung and obnoxious at times. But hey, the show is entertaining if you can stand an hour of swear words.
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XP

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 565 Location: Beautiful Island
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: Modern wives don't cook? |
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A newly wed girl was being welcomed at the husband's home in a traditional manner.
She was asked to give a little speech. She addressed as follows:
"My dear family members, I thank you for welcoming me in my new home and family", she said,
"Firstly, with my presence I would not want to create any inconveniences by my being here.
I mean that I don't want you all to change your way of life, your routine."
"What do you mean my child?" asked the patriarch of the family.
What I mean dad is:
Those who used to wash dishes must carry on washing them.
Those who used to do the laundry must carry on doing it.
Those who cooked shouldn't stop on my account.
Those who used to clean should clean.
As for me, I am here just to control your son!
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This is called bride from 21st Century!!!!
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Descartes
Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 35
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Observer, | Quote: | | Are you referring to Gordon Ramsey, the foul-mouthed Scottish chef trained in France. Too high strung and obnoxious at times. But hey, the show is entertaining if you can stand an hour of swear words. |
Don't be fooled by the TV persona, that's only for the public.... something to be noticed for, the guy is a very good chef, a very good business manager and a very good family man.... what more can I say.
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