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 Post subject: Belgium ignore intelligence warning on ISIS
PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:35 am 
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My friends in France would rather live in a tiny apartment in Paris than to move to a bigger place in the suburbs. Affordability issues aside, security and raising families in increasingly diverse and unsafe communities. They don't like the rise of Le Pan but some French see this as a way out. Mainstream politicians should address these issues in a pragmatic way.

This is not a new article, but in the light of rising attacks, even targeting Russians in St Petersburg and the Chinese government stepping up war on terror against a certain minority Muslim group, it is appropriate to share the comments of a researcher:

Islamic State can’t be destroyed with half-measures

The Australian
August 13, 2016


If a modern-day Australian Rip Van Winkle were to awake from a two-decade slumber and turn on his television set or iPad, he would be stunned by the extent to which terrorism has come to dominate our lives. Interspersed among international new stories featuring the latest terrorist bombings, assassinations and suicide attacks in far-flung regions of the world, he could not fail to notice the deep anxiety Australians feel about the likelihood of similar attacks taking place on Australian soil, or the Turnbull government’s preoccupation with preventing such attacks.

Barely a day passes without a new government initiative, statement, exhortation or meeting aimed at future-proofing Australia against the kinds of terrorist attacks that have become a regular occurrence in once tranquil Europe. This week in Bali, it was the turn of Attorney-General George Brandis, who emphasised the importance of disrupting the flow of money to terrorist groups and countering the worrying trend of self-funded terrorism.

Yet a decade and a half after 9/11 ushered in a new age of transnational terrorism, Western governments are still struggling to come to terms with the terrorist challenge in all its perplexing diversity. European soul searching in the wake of the recent spate of terrorist outrages reveals deep public confusion and a polarisation of elite opinion about the nature of the threat, its causes and how best to devise effective responses.

As Islamic State slowly cedes territory in Iraq and Syria to an unlikely coalition of Western, Russian and Islamic opponents, do the latest terrorist attacks in Europe presage a co-ordinated, Islamic State-directed campaign designed to bring the war to the West? Or are they result of self-radicalised, disenfranchised and mentally unstable “lone wolves” inspired, rather than directed, by Islamic State? Are we in the West responsible, as Islamic State and critics on the Left would have us believe? And why is it taking so long to come to grips with a problem that initially seemed manageable but is now an existential threat to France and Belgium, and a major security challenge for many other countries, including Australia.

To take the last question first, there are two main reasons for the drawn-out, patchy and often confused counter-terrorist response. The first is the disconcerting rapidity with which terrorism continues to mutate, making it difficult for intelligence and law-enforcement agencies to develop a fit for purpose counter-terrorist strategy. Before the rise of al-Qa’ida, terrorist groups essentially operated as proxies for client states with explicit, but limited, political objectives usually confined to particular geographic regions. Al-Qa’ida broke the mould as the first genuinely transnational terrorist group with global reach and ambitions to match.

However, although it aspired to the establishment of a worldwide caliphate, al-Qa’ida’s appeal was largely confined to its Middle Eastern and Pakistani redoubts. The centralised way in which the leadership operated, particularly in al-Qa’ida’s early phase, made it easier to contain and attack than the franchised, decentralised model that later evolved.

Bursting out of the Syrian desert in mid-2014 to capture a third of Syria and Iraq in less than six months, Islamic State tore up the al-Qa’ida playbook and forced a radical reassessment of Western counter-terrorist strategy. Here was an organisation that acted more like a state than a terrorist group. Moreover, it was even more brutal and better resourced than al-Qa’ida and zealously committed to a war to the death against anyone who opposed its perverse brand of Islamism, Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

A second reason was the mistaken characterisation of Islamic State as an evolved al-Qa’ida when in fact it operates more as a cult than a traditional terrorist group, a distinction that Tony Abbott frequently asserted, although without explaining its real significance. Recognising that Islamic State is fundamentally a cult allows a more accurate and nuanced picture of the organisation’s internal dynamics, structure, culture and goals. If we don’t understand what we are fighting, we have little chance of winning.

Florence Gaub, a senior analyst at the EU Institute for Security Studies, argues that cults are more flexible, cohesive, agile and ultimately more challenging than other organisations. They “do not recruit and indoctrinate like other political entities”; they often make use of “established religious scriptures and beliefs to gain credibility and legitimacy”; their leadership “is not accountable to any authority”; and they “use their money to reward obedience or to enrich the leadership”.

This is a pretty good description of Islamic State, which likes to portray itself as the vanguard of a “pure” Islam when in fact it deviates from Islam in two important respects. Islamic State uses religion “to establish an exclusive, authoritarian, self-interested organisation with total control over its adherents”. And while Islam permits differences in interpretation and practice among its adherents, cults like Islamic State “treat their (typically self-appointed) leader, belief systems, ideology and practices as absolute truth, closed for debate”.

Gaub makes several other observations about Islamic State’s cult-like character which should be mandatory reading for Western counter-terrorism agencies, because she provides clues as to how the organisation can be weakened and defeated.

The way Islamic State recruits and indoctrinates its members is almost identical to cults elsewhere. Cults are less concerned with spreading a spiritual message than with control of the group, an observation borne out by the pervasive control that Islamic State imposes over all aspects of its members’ lives, from the trivial to the important. Leadership directives cover, often in turgid and obsessive detail, everything from the length of men’s beards to the circumstances under which fighters can have *** with captured women. Loosening its leaders’ control over their followers by undermining their authority is the key to reducing Islamic State’s social cohesion and effectiveness.

Far from being an egalitarian organisation, Islamic State is a ­hierarchy that apportions spoils according to position. The gap between the organisation’s unifying rhetoric and preferential practices can be exploited to create dissension among its ranks, for example by publicly exposing the vastly different treatment local recruits receive compared with the relatively privileged foreign fighters and senior leaders.

Like all cults, Islamic State uses difficult to detect, and combat, psychological recruitment techniques to target receptive individuals, eroding, then severing, their family bonds and positioning the organisation to replace them as the only relevant social network. Violence is used to deter resistance, intimidate adversaries and create a shared group experience. So psychological responses are necessary in the form of incentives for defection, protection from Islamic State violence and amnesties for intelligence co-operation.

Battlefield success is central to Islamic State’s narrative, legitimacy and capacity to recruit, which is why the leadership sometimes seeks high-profile victories, often at disproportionate cost or in defiance of tactical logic. During intense fighting last June, hundreds of fighters were sacrificed in an ultimately unsuccessful bid to wrest back control of the Syrian border town of Kobane from Kurdish forces.

Denying Islamic State battlefield success in Syria, Iraq and Libya is a necessary first step towards stifling its recruiting ability. This is borne out by recent data showing that the number of foreign and local fighters peaked in 2015 at about 33,000 and has since fallen precipitately in tandem with battlefield reverses by around a third. Islamic State will lose the ability to fight and proselytise as a proto-state if the number of fighters drops much further and its remaining strongholds in Mosul (Iraq), Raqqa (Syria) and Sirte (Libya) fall, which is almost certain in the next 12 months.

This will not end the terrorist threat as many fighters will blend back into the largely Sunni populations from where they came. Some will flee to join established terrorist networks in Europe and wherever there are porous borders and sympathetic host communities. But battlefield defeat will destroy the aura of invincibility that has been Islamic State’s most potent recruiting tool.

Derailing the Islamic State train must include dispelling the false notion that the West is largely responsible for its rise because of a failure to reduce poverty, inequality and the other alleged roots causes of terrorism; a reluctance to integrate Muslims into our societies; entrenched Islamophobia; and exploitative, anti-Muslim Western foreign policies.

None of these arguments has much basis in fact or logic. Since 1945, the West has presided over the greatest era of development and growth the world has seen, freeing hundreds of millions from abject poverty and servitude. Terrorism is clearly not inversely proportional to income and educa­tional levels. If it were, one would expect terrorist leaders and their followers predominantly to come from the dispossessed, not the educated elites.

On the contrary, Osama bin Laden’s father was a billionaire; his successor, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is an eye surgeon; and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of Islamic State, graduated with a doctorate from the Islamic University of Baghdad. Many of Islamic State’s senior cadre were once high-ranking members of Saddam Hussein’s officer corps, and the middle classes are well represented among the 27,000 foreign recruits who have fought for Islamic State in Iraq and Syria since 2011. No rising of the poor, downtrodden masses here.

If entrenched Islamophobia is the cause, the blame-the-West crowd needs to explain the non-religious or nominally Christian backgrounds of many foreign Islamic State recruits or the generally welcoming attitude of host countries to Muslim immigration before the excesses of al-Qa’ida and Islamic State generated an anti-Muslim backlash.

Western foreign policy may have been misguided and, on occasions, injurious to the interests of some Muslims. But no more so than the actions of their own leaders, and certainly less than those of the terrorist groups spawned by the Muslim world’s conflicts and enduring confessional disputes, notably those between the Sunni and Shia versions of Islam.

If there is any validity to the argument that it’s the West’s fault, ironically it’s for a diametrically opposite reason. The terrorist problem has been exacerbated by a too accommodating and irresolute West, which initially misread the threat and then shied away from taking the necessary hard-headed, whole-of-government measures to curtail and defeat Islamic State.

The shocked, disbelief of Europeans following the multiple terrorist attacks in France and Belgium over the past 18 months is as much an indictment of government unpreparedness to anticipate the emerging threat as the accompanying failures of intelligence, policing, anti-terror legislation and judicial supervision of suspected terrorists.

In retrospect, it is clear that Belgian authorities had turned a blind eye to the jihadist network that had been allowed to flourish under their very eyes in the Brussels suburb of Molenbeek. In France, major police cuts and the compartmentalisation of intelligence have made it easier for jihadists to operate and attack soft targets. Prisons have become terrorist incubators and lax judicial/penal supervision permits terrorist suspects too much freedom of movement and communication.

Adel Kermiche, the teenage jihadist who slit the throat of the octogenarian Catholic priest Jacques Hamel in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, had been taken intio custody but released with an electronic tracking bracelet. Unfathomably, the bracelet was apparently deactivated for a few hours each morning despite a state of emergency, allowing Kermiche to go to the church and kill Hamel.

Relatively untouched by terrorism until last month’s violent attacks, Germans now appear to be regretting Angela Merkel’s well-intentioned but poorly conceived decision to open Germany’s borders to 1.2 million asylum-seekers with little appreciation for the social and financial costs, or the opening it would provide for Islamic State to exploit.

Supporters lauded the move and poured scorn on intelligence warnings that Islamic State would use the influx of asylum-seekers as a cover to broaden and deepen its European network. But that is exactly what appears to have happened. In three of the four terrorist incidents that shattered German complacency, including an axe attack on a train that left four injured and Germany’s first suicide bombing in the Bavarian town of Ansbach, the perpetrators were asylum-seekers. This should not have come as a surprise since Islamic State leaders made clear in 2014 that they would take their war against infidels into the very heart of Europe.

Those inclined to blame the West contend that many incidents portrayed as acts of terrorism are, in fact, committed by mentally unstable misfits who have no affiliation to Islamic State. At worst, they are lone wolves who may have been inspired by terrorist propaganda but are essentially self-radicalised, the clear inference being that the threat from Islamic State has been exaggerated for political and ideological reasons.

However, the factors responsible for mental illness do not necessarily lead to radicalisation and the vast majority of terrorists are not mentally ill, by any reasonable definition. The lone wolves argument is more persuasive and has its adherents in the intelligence and law-enforcement community, but it needs qualification. Lone-wolf attacks in which individuals self-radicalise without any external support or influence are rare. Increasingly, authorities are finding these people are less lonely than first thought, with significant links to Islamic State.

Nafees Hamid, a psychologist who has studied the jihadist phenomenon, found that only 10 per cent of jihadis were radicalised online. Most had interaction with like-minded people. Other studies have found that loners typically talked about their plans with friends or family. And although the spectre of multiplying lone-wolf attacks is disturbing because of their randomness, including in the choice of weapons, individuals genuinely acting alone are less of a long term threat than a hardened, well-resourced terrorist group such as Islamic State.

What we have learned from the past 15 years of steadily worsening terrorist assaults on the liberal international order is that the West — Australia included — is going to have to toughen up and take a more holistic and uncompromising approach to counter-terrorism.

This means controlling our borders and immigration; disrupting the capacity of terrorists to recruit our people; imposing harsher penalties on those convicted of terrorism including their supporters; preventing those engaged in terrorist-related activities from collecting welfare benefits; investing more in intelligence, intelligence sharing and counter-terrorism; stopping our prisons from becoming terrorist incubators; reaching out to our Muslim communities; targeting terrorist financing; and destroying Islamic State’s war fighting capacity.

When dealing with a resolute and fanatically committed foe, half-measures and soft approaches only encourage greater violence and extremism, as Europeans are finding out.

Alan Dupont is chief executive of the Cognoscenti Group and a non-resident fellow at the Lowy Institute.

 Post subject: Re: Belgium ignore intelligence warning on ISIS
PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:33 am 
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This is close to home. Things don't happen suddenly. Governments are missing the point by fending off stereotyping of a large community instead of focusing on problem areas.
Complacence is the road to disaster. Know yourself and know your enemy, as the Chinese military strategist Sun Zi advised.

The rise of right wing politicians is fighting fire with fire and will lead to implosion of societies. Older migrants and generations of Muslim communities did not cause trouble.
Something has gone wrong with the younger generation. They need reverse brainwashing.

 Post subject: Sweden attack - how many more in Europe?
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Add Sweden to the list. Warning signs and alerts are up but it is very difficult to prevent random non-sophisticated attacks using ordinary vehicles on the road unlike earlier ones using weapons and explosives. Either they have to stop fighters from returning to Europe or clamp down on all the internet websites that propagate violence. Pray for the families of victims and all the Europeans.

 Post subject: Re: Sweden attack - how many more in Europe?
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[quote="Poor Man"]Add Sweden to the list. Warning signs and alerts are up but it is very difficult to prevent random non-sophisticated attacks using ordinary vehicles on the road unlike earlier ones using weapons and explosives. Either they have to stop fighters from returning to Europe or clamp down on all the internet websites that propagate violence. Pray for the families of victims and all the Europeans.

or clamp down on all the internet websites that propagate violence
There is a misconception among many peoples that Islamic terrorists are influenced and recruited by Imams, evil Muslim recruitment agents or such propaganda. These people have been misguided.

The main recruitment of Islamic Jihadist Terrorists is the Quran, familiar to every Muslim.
Does the Quran really contain over a hundred verses promoting violence?

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy, along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: Cutting off someone's head while shouting 'Allahu Akbar' is not a 'perverison of Islam', but a tradition of Islam that began with Muhammad. In this passage, a companion recounts an episode in which he staged a surprise ambush on a settlement: "I leapt upon him and cut off his head and ran in the direction of the camp shouting 'Allah akbar' and my two companions did likewise".

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 - "Embrace Islam... If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship." One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries. The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims. Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad's armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.

Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Where Islam is dominant (as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is in the minority (as in Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim demands are not met. Either situation seems to provide a justification for religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic fundamentalism.

The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on their side. Once they do, things change.

Many Muslims are peaceful and do not want to believe what the Quran really says. They prefer a more narrow interpretation that is closer to the Judeo-Christian ethic. Some just ignore harsher passages. Others reach for "textual context" across different suras to subjectively mitigate these verses with others so that the message fits their personal moral preference. Although the Quran itself claims to be clear and complete, these apologists speak of the "risks" of trying to interpret verses without their "assistance."

The violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in very real massacre and genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody conquest. Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam's Genghis Khan) slaughtered an untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.

Violence is so ingrained in Islam that it has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.

Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives. He inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to **** traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.

It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religion's most dramatic military conquests were made by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades following his death.

The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves and resisted Islamic hegemony. Although modern apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to "attack in self-defense", this oxymoron is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back to the time of Muhammad.

Some modern-day scholars are more candid than others. One of the most respected Sunni theologians is al-Qaradawi, who justifies terror attacks against Western targets by noting that there is no such thing as a civilian population in a time of war:

"It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar al-Harb [ie. non-Muslim people who resist Islamic conquest] is not protected... In modern war, all of society, with all its classes and ethnic groups, is mobilized to participate in the war, to aid its continuation, and to provide it with the material and human fuel required for it to assure the victory of the state fighting its enemies. Every citizen in society must take upon himself a role in the effort to provide for the battle. The entire domestic front, including professionals, laborers, and industrialists, stands behind the fighting army, even if it does not bear arms."

Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as "same day marriage").

One of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in order to spread the word of Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way." Elsewhere, he notes: "Islam has the right to take the initiative…this is God’s religion and it is for the whole world. It has the right to destroy all obstacles in the form of institutions and traditions … it attacks institutions and traditions to release human beings from their poisonous influences, which distort human nature and curtail human freedom. Those who say that Islamic Jihad was merely for the defense of the 'homeland of Islam' diminish the greatness of the Islamic way of life."

The widely respected Dictionary of Islam defines Jihad as "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Quran and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined specially for the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims…[Quoting from the Hanafi school, Hedaya, 2:140, 141.], "The destruction of the sword is incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors, as appears from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this effect."

Dr. Salah al-Sawy, the chief member of the Assembly of Muslim Jurists in America, stated in 2009 that "the Islamic community does not possess the strength to engage in offensive jihad at this time," tacitly affirming the legitimacy of violence for the cause of Islamic rule - bound only by the capacity for success. (source)

Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession resulted in perpetual internal war following his death. Those who knew him best first fought afterwards to keep remote tribes from leaving Islam and reverting to their preferred religion (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars'). Then the violence turned within. Early Meccan converts battled later ones as hostility developed between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally there was a violent struggle within Muhammad's own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter - a jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others' throats to this day.

The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about Islam is that it is a religion of peace. If every standard by which the West is judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, misogyny, sexual repression, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and represses criticism.

This is what makes the Quran's verses of violence so dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim terrorists take them literally, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little to contradict them - outside of personal opinion. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader community - even if most Muslims prefer not to interpret their personal viewpoint of Islam in this way.

Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam's most respected philosophers, understood that "the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force", many other Muslims are either unaware or willfully ignorant of the Quran's near absence of verses that preach universal non-violence. Their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. Believers in the West are often led to think that their religion is like Christianity - preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to find that the Quran and the bloody history of Islam's genesis say otherwise.

Others simply accept the violence. In 1991, a Palestinian couple in America was convicted of stabbing their daughter to death for being too Westernized. A family friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury for not understanding the "culture", claiming that the father was merely following "the religion" and saying that the couple had to "discipline their daughter or lose respect." (source). In 2011, unrepentant Palestinian terrorists, responsible for the brutal murders of civilians, women and children explicitly in the name of Allah were treated to a luxurious "holy pilgrimage" to Mecca by the Saudi king - without a single Muslim voice raised in protest.

The most prestigious Islamic university in the world today is Cairo's al-Azhar. While the university is very quick to condemn secular Muslims who critique the religion, it has never condemned ISIS as a group of infidels despite horrific carnage in the name of Allah. When asked why, the university's Grand Imam, Ahmed al-Tayeb explained: " Al Azhar cannot accuse any [Muslim] of being a kafir [infidel], as long as he believes in Allah and the Last Day—even if he commits every atrocity."

For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous.

There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done in the name of Islam.

It is time people appreciated that Islamic Jihadist Terrorism is part and parcel of the Quran and Islam and all Muslims know these scriptures. Terrorism is a part of Islamic ideology and it is not the exception to it.

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