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 Post subject: Trump's show of strength in Syria view as stupidity by China
PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:42 pm 
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Trump like all previous US Presidents like to show force and get into another war far away from home.
China will again move ahead by focusing on priorities.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/07/what-trump-calls-strength-china-calls-stupidity-xi-jinping-summit-syria-strikes/?utm_content=buffereb631&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's show of strength in Syria view as stupidity by C
PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:08 pm 
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Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed. {emphasis ours}

Today, while the rebels are more desperate than they were at the time of that article, evidence of rebels using chemical weapons is available; evidence Assad’s regime has used them is not.

http://shoebat.com/2013/08/27/evidence- ... not-assad/


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's show of strength in Syria view as stupidity by C
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Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed. {emphasis ours}

Today, while the rebels are more desperate than they were at the time of that article, evidence of rebels using chemical weapons is available; evidence Assad’s regime has used them is not.

http://shoebat.com/2013/08/27/evidence- ... not-assad/


If it is possible that the rebels were successful in turning Trumph against Assad, they have succeeded in deceiving the West. Then it will be Trump who is the war criminal, not Assad.


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's show of strength in Syria view as stupidity by C
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Washington’s False Flag: United Nations Confirmed that US Supported Syrian “Rebels” Were Using Chemical Weapons

Washington is Lying.

The Media is Lying.

Both Trump and Obama have blood on their hands. The Chemical Weapons Attack is being used as a “False Flag”, a pretext and a justification to wage an illegal war of aggression.

The United Nations in a 2013 report confirms that Syrian opposition “rebels” (supported by Washington) “may have used chemical weapons against [Syrian] government forces.”

The UN report refutes Washington’s allegations that the government of Bashar al Assad was using chemical weapons against his own people.

What the UN mission findings confirm is that the US sponsored opposition “rebels” largely composed of Al Qaeda affiliated groups, financed and supported by the Western military alliance were responsible for these 2013 chemical weapons attacks.

Moreover, as confirmed in an earlier report, the Al Qaeda rebels were being trained in the use of chemical weapons by specialists on contract to the Pentagon.

Washington (which supports the opposition rebels in the use of chemical weapons) rather than Damascus is responsible for extensive crimes against humanity.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/united-nations-confirmed-that-us-supported-rebels-were-using-chemical-weapons/5583988


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's show of strength in Syria view as stupidity by C
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Syrian “Rebels” Admit Responsibility for Sarin Gas Attack…It was NOT Assad!

Syrian rebels in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta have admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they were responsible for last week’s chemical weapons incident which western powers have blamed on Bashar Al-Assad’s forces, revealing that the casualties were the result of an accident caused by rebels mishandling chemical weapons provided to them by Saudi Arabia.

“From numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families….many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the (deadly) gas attack,” writes Gavlak. (back up version here).

Rebels told Gavlak that they were not properly trained on how to handle the chemical weapons or even told what they were. It appears as though the weapons were initially supposed to be given to the Al-Qaeda offshoot Jabhat al-Nusra.
“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” one militant named ‘J’ told Gavlak.
His claims are echoed by another female fighter named ‘K’, who told Gavlak, “They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them. We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”

Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of an opposition rebel, also told Gavlak, “My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” describing them as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.” The father names the Saudi militant who provided the weapons as Abu Ayesha.
According to Abdel-Moneim, the weapons exploded inside a tunnel, killing 12 rebels.

“More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government,” writes Gavlak.
If accurate, this story could completely derail the United States’ rush to attack Syria which has been founded on the “undeniable” justification that Assad was behind the chemical weapons attack.
Dale Gavlak’s credibility is very impressive. He has been a Middle East correspondent for the Associated Press for two decades and has also worked for National Public Radio (NPR) and written articles for BBC News.

The website on which the story originally appeared – Mint Press (which is currently down as a result of huge traffic it is attracting to the article) is a legitimate media organization based in Minnesota. The Minnesota Post did a profile on them last year.
Saudi Arabia’s alleged role in providing rebels, whom they have vehemently backed at every turn, with chemical weapons, is no surprise given the revelations earlier this week that the Saudis threatened Russia with terror attacks at next year’s Winter Olympics in Sochi unless they abandoned support for the Syrian President.
“I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” Prince Bandar allegedly told Vladimir Putin, the Telegraph reports.
The Obama administration is set to present its intelligence findings today in an effort prove that Assad’s forces were behind last week’s attack, despite American officials admitting to the New York Times that there is no “smoking gun” that directly links President Assad to the attack.
US intelligence officials also told the Associated Press that the intelligence proving Assad’s culpability is “no slam dunk.”
As we reported earlier this week, intercepted intelligence revealed that the Syrian Defense Ministry was making “panicked” phone calls to Syria’s chemical weapons department demanding answers in the hours after the attack, suggesting that it was not ordered by Assad’s forces.
UPDATE: Associated Press contacted us to confirm that Dale Gavlak is an AP correspondent, but that her story was not published under the banner of the Associated Press. We didn’t claim this was the case, we merely pointed to Gavlak’s credentials to stress that she is a credible source, being not only an AP correspondent, but also having written for PBS, BBC and Salon.com.
Source: https://www.infowars.com/rebels-admit-r ... ns-attack/

Will Trump apologise and pay compensations?


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's show of strength in Syria view as stupidity by C
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Trump has stopped believing in Putin. He has to distance from Russia to save his post.
Russians have been supplying chemicals to Assad. There are five other parties in the Middle East and more than a thousand rebel groups against the Assad regime.
It's a mess!


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's show of strength in Syria view as stupidity by C
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"chemical weapons provided to the rebels by Saudi Arabia."

America has blamed Assad for Rebels using chemical weapons and then nuked Assad. America blamed Saddam Hussein for having weapons of mass Destruction and invaded Iraq when no weapons of mass destruction were ever found. Can we ever believe America?


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's show of strength in Syria view as stupidity by C
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:40 am 
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elle wrote:
"chemical weapons provided to the rebels by Saudi Arabia."

America has blamed Assad for Rebels using chemical weapons and then nuked Assad. America blamed Saddam Hussein for having weapons of mass Destruction and invaded Iraq when no weapons of mass destruction were ever found. Can we ever believe America?


"G7 foreign ministers reject UK drive for sanctions on Russia and Syria following suspected chemical attack." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39565700

" So Boris Johnson's move to sanction Russia and Syria fails." Why?
If Assad and Putin are right, then it proves that there is a conspiracy in the West to topple Assad, but then that would mean ISIS is the victor in Syria. Who are the West supporting? It seems that toppling a dictator is More important than defeating ISIS.


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 Post subject: Assad supporters rare in the western world
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:10 am 
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Sunnis want to exterminate Shias is the larger game in the Middle East. Who can you believe these days and what is real or fake news? The dominant narrative is as good as real for now until history digs out more dirt to contradict what everyone holds as the absolute truth. This applies to both sides and I am reserving the right to be unbiased and see the arguments from both sides of the clear division.

Australian academics who are usually reticent have campaigned to tell more about what goes on in Syria. Obviously this does not go well with the majority of the western media, political leaders, Sunnis and public. To accuse US presidents for causing terrorism and labeling a journalist as traitor show lacking in diplomacy even if one believes that is the truth and feels passionate about the cause. Being a minority view, one should be more cautious in the bid to win supporters and not to give detractors reasons to retaliate.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/sydney-uni-academic-tim-anderson-defends-assad-attacks-trump-and-obama/news-story/dd2b20b97d6fe4c8afb6f7ab1ba11d55


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 Post subject: Assad master of manipulation and power play of rivals
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Assad might have been overconfident and did not expect Trump to retaliate. The rebels are losing territory but gained moral victory on the human rights card.
Assad still survives this round but for how long? Depends on Russia and USA. Doubtful Trump would go very far to get entangled in the Middle East.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-did-a ... vk1x1.html


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