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 Post subject: Myanmar : Anti-Government Protests
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:12 am 
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Myanmar Protests Enter Fourth Day

Although the number of Buddhist monks demonstrating in Myanmar today has dropped to about 200, the continuity of protests would put pressure on the government who are reluctant to use force against the Sangha who are highly respected in Myanmar society. The previous day, nearly 1,000 monks and thousands of citizens marched, culminating in about 5,000, a rare sight in the tightly controlled regime and the largest challenge in a decade to the iron-fisted junta that rules the nation.

Unlike most of the earlier protests that focussed more on political freedom, the protest movement triggered by increase in fuel prices, centred on economic hardships largely resulting from mismanagement and tough policies.

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Some monks are refusing alms from the military and their families - a religious boycott deeply embarrassing to the junta. In the Myanmar language, the term for "boycott" comes from the words for holding an alms bowl upside down.

The government appeared to be handling the situation gingerly, aware that any action seen as mistreating the monks could ignite public outrage. They are aware that restraining monks poses a dilemma, because monks are highly respected in predominant Buddhist Myanmar, and abusing them in any manner could cause public outrage.

A member of one of the junta's neighborhood councils said it had been given instructions by authorities not to interfere with the protesting monks.

The protests express long pent-up opposition to the repressive regime and have become the most sustained challenge to the junta since a wave of student demonstrations that were forcibly suppressed in December 1996.

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Unconfirmed reports said monks staged protests in several other cities Thursday, including Pakokku and Monywa in north central Myanmar.

Monks have historically been at the forefront of protests in the country, first against British colonialism and later against military dictatorship. They played a prominent part in a failed 1988 pro-democracy uprising that sought an end to military rule, imposed since 1962.


Apart from domestic pressure, the military junta has come under increasing international criticism.

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The junta's crackdown on the protesters has drawn increasing criticism from world leaders, including U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and President Bush. They have called for the government to release opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who has been under house arrest for more than 11 of the past 18 years.

The U.N.'s envoy to Myanmar, Ibrahim Gambari, focused on the protests in a Security Council briefing Thursday.

"The developments over the last few weeks in Myanmar have raised serious concerns in the international community and once again underscore the urgency to step up our efforts to find solutions to the challenges facing the country," Gambari told the council, according to a U.N. account of the closed session.

Gambari said he was very concerned about protesters who have been detained and expressed hope for their release.

The demonstrations had been faltering, with about 200 protesters being detained, before the monks entered the fray.

Monks angered over being manhandled at a Sept. 5 demonstration in Pakokku in north central Myanmar had threatened to take to the streets unless the junta apologized. The regime remained silent, so they launched protests around the country on Tuesday that have been steadily growing.

Monks may now be assuming the vanguard because top pro-democracy activists were rounded up soon after the start of the demonstrations, said Debbie Stothard of Altsean-Burma, a Bangkok, Thailand-based coalition of non-governmental groups working for human rights and democracy in Myanmar, also known as Burma.


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 Post subject: Growing Protests in Myanmar
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The number of protestors joining the demonstrating monks reached an estimated 100,000. That is impressive considering the tight rein the military junta imposes on this isolated nation.

It is a potentially explosive situation. Anything could happen. The delicate balance depends on how far the demonstrators would proceed, limiting to peaceful demonstrations, exert sufficient pressure on the regime without provoking the soldiers to clamp down using force.

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Despite apparent reluctance to send in soldiers now, history suggests the junta -- the latest face of 45 years of unbroken military rule -- will come down hard, as it did in 1988 when up to 3,000 people are thought to have been killed.
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Diplomats say Beijing -- the closest the junta has to a friend -- may also be playing a quiet role behind the scenes, building on public statements this month at an Asia-Pacific summit in Sydney urging "national reconciliation".

But any "pro-reform" elements within the junta's top leadership also face formidable impediments.

Not least of these is supremo Than Shwe's personal dislike of Suu Kyi, said to be so intense the 73-year-old "Senior General" refuses to allow her name to be mentioned in his presence.

Some analysts also said the lack of action may simply be because the junta has been caught off guard by the speed with which protests has mushroomed from sporadic marches against fuel prices in mid-August to massed ranks marches a month later.


http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ ... =3&sp=true

The Burmese military junta should take a leaf from their Chinese patrons.

China has moved away from the totalitarian system of government, opened the country to foreign investments, technology, trade, which has benefitted many Chinese people albeit at a slow trickling down pace.
That is the only way to get out of the malaise.

It is common that during crises, those who could leave are making preparations. Mynmar has lost many of its professionals and human resource to other Southeast Asian countries, UK and US in the past few decades.


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 Post subject: Move Aside
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The minimum any government should provide to keep its people contented is to feed them sufficiently well. The incompetent and corrupt military regime has failed in this very basic obligation. Empty stomachs spur people to agitate.

Unprecedented and significant features are the sheer numbers of fearless demonstrators, participation of the respected sangha and China's influence.

The Burmeses have put up with repressive policies and economic hardship for too long and this could be the last straw that would break the camel's back.

It is pointless accusing foreign support for the protestors to discredit them or as a pretext for crushing the protestors. Mynamar leaders should step down graciously and make way for Aung San Sui Kyi who was legitimately elected, more capable and less self centred intellectuals to govern the country.


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 Post subject: Status Quo Is No Go
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For the moment, the military has regained the upperhand, having crushed the opposition through sheer force and put them in jail or forced them into hiding.

Continuing the current state of affairs is not the way to go.

What are the possible ways to resolve the statemate and problems faced by Myanmar?

- Through armed revolution just like the Bolsheviks overthrow of the Tsar.

- Negotiations mediated by UN with China arm twisting the military for greater participation, open economy and better administration. UN supervised elections will be too costly and difficult for the military to swallow. Perhaps China who has been establishing a line to the dissident groups has a plan to forge a coalition to resolve the current malaise.


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 Post subject: Myanmar : External Support or Pressure
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Any progress is going to be long, tedious and painful. Blood has been shed and possibly more to come unless there is a arbiter - UN? China? that could ensure an orderly transition to form a national reconciliation government feasible and acceptable to all parties concerned.

The military junta could be more tenacious and harder to dislodge than western countries would like to believe. Given the external economic lifeline it has built, the junta controls the distribution of goods and services and could literally starve the opposition. On the other hand, Myanmar's economic partners could exert pressure on the regime to be more flexible and work out a negotiated settlement.

Have a read of this thread :

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 Post subject: Revolution from Within
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September 29, 2007

FACING THE ENEMY WITHIN

Bertil Lintner doesn't hold out much hope for Burma's democracy movement in its fight against a brutal regime that is not overly concerned about international reaction.

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It did not take more than a jump in the price of fuel to ignite a revolution in Burma, which goes a long way to show that anger and discontent with the country's military Government had been simmering under the surface for years, if not decades.


People are mortals. How many lives and how many years can one afford to lose to fight the military junta that simply refuses to honour election results and listen to the people's voices?

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No international condemnation seems to move the generals; as was the case in 1988, they refuse to accept that the population has rejected their rule. In a speech on Monday, Burma's Religious Affairs Minister, Brigadier-General Thura Myint Maung, blamed the "disturbances" on "internal and external destructionists", including the Communist Party of Burma, which has been defunct for more than 18 years. It was a plot, the minister asserted, "systematically manipulated from abroad".


Words have little impact on the military junta. Unless they feel the pain, there would not be incentive for them to negotiate.

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Burma is no ordinary military dictatorship, and it cannot be compared with Thailand, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Pakistan or other countries in the region which also have had spells of military rule.

When the army first seized power in 1962, it not only took control of the government, but assumed economic power. Branded the Under the "Burmese Way to Socialism" almost all private property was confiscated and handed to several military-run state corporations. The old mercantile elite, which to a large extent was of ethnic Indian and Chinese origin, left the country, and so did many of Burma's intellectuals. Before the 1962 coup, Burma had had one of the highest standards of living in South-East Asia, and a fairly well-educated population.


Myanmar has regressed compared to the rest of the world. Even its neighbours less developed and not as well endowed in resources have moved ahead.

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The generals are not interested in any "dialogue" with pro-democracy advocates, which they, and the international community, have been calling for since 1988. Nor are they interested in any "national reconciliation"; the military-controlled Burmese media instead constantly refers to the need for what it calls "national reconsolidation", or further strengthening of military rule.
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Western sanctions against Burma have not had much effect as its neighbours, which include China and India, and the ASEAN nations continue to trade and invest in the country, allowing the generals to use Burma's ample natural resources and strategic geographical position to survive.
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By late 1991 Chinese experts were helping in a series of infrastructure projects to spruce up poorly maintained roads and railways. Chinese military advisers arrived the same year, the first foreign military personnel to be stationed in Burma since Australia had a contingent there to train the Burmese army in the 1950s. The total value of Chinese arms deliveries to Burma is not known, but intelligence sources estimate it to be about $US1.4 billion ($1.58 billion).
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Burma's close relationship with China caused concern in India. To counter China's growing influence, at first India supported Burma's pro-democracy movement. But when it became clear that it was not going to come to power any time soon, India began to court the junta.
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But if change does come to Burma, it will be because of action taken by such younger army officers, not demonstrations led by monks. The protests can, at the most, perhaps influence sections of the army to realise there is no future in supporting the present regime. For, ultimately, there is no place in the modern world for an anachronistic and atavistic regime such as the warrior kingdom of Naypyidaw.

Bertil Lintner is a Bangkok-based journalist and an expect on Burmese affairs.


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 Post subject: Myanmar's External Supporters
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For external angle of the Myanmar political stalemate, please see link to inter-state relations forum :

http://oneworldtalk.freeforums.org/view ... =1026#1026


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 Post subject: Orwell Knew Burma's Path
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Cursed with a wealth of ironies

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Fri, Oct 05, 2007
The Straits Times

George Orwell, a colonial police officer in Moulmein (now Mawlamyine) in the 1920s, would have recognised the irony in the brutality of the current crackdown in Yangon and other cities in Myanmar where troops killed, beat up, imprisoned and tortured monks and others marching against the junta.

To him, cruelty damaged the strong as well as the seemingly weak, in this case those in saffron robes chanting and offering 'loving kindness' as they took their licks.

'I was hated by large numbers of people - the only time in my life that I was important enough for this to happen to me,' he wrote later, after he had repudiated the evil of imperialism and 'chucked up my job'.

Another irony of the Myanmar crisis would not have escaped Orwellian comment, namely outsiders' insistence on 'democracy' for Myanmar. Foreigners presumably are clear in their own minds on what this entails, but what does the term mean - to the National League for Democracy that Aung San Suu Kyi leads, to ordinary Myanmarese trying to make ends meet, to the ethnic minorities aspiring to greater autonomy and to the junta reluctant to give up decades-long political and economic privileges and fearful of revenge?

United States President George W. Bush, obviously relieved he could make common cause for once with the left and right, Democrats and Republicans, film stars and evangelical Christians, and even his wife Laura, has moved quickly to impose sanctions on Myanmar.

He rides for democracy once again, looking for success in place of failure in Iraq. So buoyed by such non-partisan support, the White House could, however, over-reach and hurt the democracy movement's cause, observers warn.

Meanwhile, the US action has caught out America's Chevron corporation, with an embarrassing stake in a Myanmar gas pipeline project that funnels hard currency to the junta while contributing to human rights abuse, activists allege.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown wants to see 'all the pressures of the world put on this regime now - sanctions, the pressure of the UN, pressure from China and all the countries in the region, India, pressure from the whole of the world'.

But despite official disapproval, companies from all over the world reportedly continue to plough money into Myanmar through subsidiaries based in British overseas dependent territories such as the Virgin Islands, although the largest European investor in Myanmar is Total Oil, France's biggest company.

No, Mr Brown, even representing the ex-colonial power, does not bear the sort of blame for Myanmar that some analysts apportion to former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger for creating the Khmer Rouge monster of the Kampuchean killing fields when he urged president Richard Nixon to expand the Vietnam War into Cambodia, trampling on its neutrality.

But in the stampede to react and without excusing the junta's conduct, it might be helpful to remember that the Myanmarese regarded their army, which conquered all of present-day Laos and Thailand in the 16th century, as a source of national pride until its defeat by Britain in the 1824-26 war.

Further humiliation resulted when the British made then Burma a minor Indian appendage of the Raj. The Burmese military's redemption came only in the 1940s when army officers, led by Aung San Suu Kyi's father General Aung San, wrested independence from Britain.

Strangely ironic, too, but not overly surprising, humiliation by foreign powers in the 19th century inhibits China from rushing at Western insistence to intervene in Myanmar's internal affairs in the 21st century.

The British also helped destroy another Burmese institution, the monarchy. The overthrow of the last dynasty in 1885 meant Burma, unlike the neighbouring Buddhist kingdom of Thailand, would never have a constitutional monarchy, with a king as the head of state, above politics, a symbol of unity and a steadying influence in time of crisis, perhaps a figurehead not unlike Mr Brown's Queen.

Yet another irony is that even the Chinese have used the 'd' word this time. The Xinhua news agency paraphrased a Chinese official last week admonishing a Myanmarese special envoy to 'push forward a democracy process appropriate for the country'. This is pushing the envelope.

Myanmar's strategic value as buffer territory, ready market for Chinese arms and abundant source of raw materials explain China's close ties with the regime. But China also wants to counter Western threats to brand the 2008 Beijing Olympics the 'genocide games' for conducting business as usual with the junta.

The Chinese reference is doubly ironic in that the Myanmar approach is an echo, a misbegotten echo but still an echo, of China's top-down system aimed at ensuring stability, necessitated and justified by harmony in the Confucianist sense, pre-empting human rights and political diversity.

While the Chinese Communist Party hangs on to legitimacy by spreading the fruits of economic modernisation and expansion, the Myanmar regime alienates itself from the people, mismanaging the economy on top of trying to maintain stability through repression and coercion.

The irony is more striking in that Myanmar is a country rich in vast natural resources. If the junta had the breadth of vision, intention and action to tap the land's mineral wealth, reweave and fill what used to be Asia's rice basket and educate its intelligent and hardworking citizens, the economy would have flourished, with or without the globalised economics now enveloping neighbouring nations.

Instead, the regime so reduced the nation's economic circumstances that it started the equivalent of rationing coal in Newcastle when it had to raise petrol prices fivefold in August, sparking the first of the recent demonstrations.

A booming economy and fair redistribution would at least have made it easier to deflect or to accommodate demands for political participation, rights for individuals and minorities and social justice.

The monks - numbering 400,000, similar in strength to the soldiers - would have been a willing ally, not a resolute adversary, given that Buddhism, like Confucianism, advocates harmony and eschews extremism. At the same time, a genuine constitutional process could have produced a viable political arrangement.

It is not too late for the junta to attempt national reconciliation by reopening dialogue with the opposition, notably Aung San Suu Kyi and the NLD. Whatever the 'democracy' that results from such reconciliation - the extent to which it requires opening up political space, formal recognition of human and minority rights, liberty, equality and other 'democratic' necessities - is for the Myanmarese to decide.

Hopefully, UN special envoy Ibrahim Gambari has managed to initiate such a dialogue in his minimal shuttle diplomacy in the past few days.

Meanwhile, outsiders unfamiliar with Myanmar's history, values and beliefs or vested with their own interests should certainly help to stop the violence, but beyond that remain only encouragingly watchful. They should refrain from fluttering politically correct 'democracy' banners in a patronising wind, sweet slogans that nevertheless may have difficulty passing the Orwellian test of linguistic accuracy, let alone moral truth.

http://news.asiaone.com/print/News/The% ... 28509.html


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 Post subject: Buddhism and political protests
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The article below was posted under the section of intergovernmental affairs. It may be more relevant here.

Any Buddhist Jihadist??

http://oneworldtalk.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=399

At the beginning of the unrest in Burma (I prefer this old name!), the Buddhist monks were in the fore front. It reminds me of the old days when the Buddhist monks and nuns had to finally lead the protests of the continuing war and miseries in Vietnam in the 60's. Remember the image of monks in lotus positions setting themselves on fire. Passive but powerful images that began to stir the anti-war movements in USA. In Buddhism, a religion (?) that teaches individual salvation, one rarely sees a motivation for crowd involvement (unlike other monotheist religions)even when human rights and liberty are at peril. We see, perhaps as a last resort, the involvement of Buddhist monks in the unrest in Burma, and it speaks volume. Soldiers who would gun down protesting monks are no Buddhist at all, for life is sacred in Buddhism. For if they are, then the revolution would be over and those corrupt military leaders replaced.


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 Post subject: Ironies
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Edgar, the greatest irony probably stems from Orwell himself. Despite his insightful and profound writings, he is said to be an imperialist and racist at heart.

This hypocrisy has clearly lingered on to this day. Western countries calling for democracy while its businesses are proping up the oppressive military regime. To the people in Burma, the immediate concerns are to ensure that foreign earnings could be shared and more equitably distributed. That would be revolutionary alebit a tiny step forward.


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 Post subject: Buddhist Jihadist
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Kebau, Burmese monks adopted passive resistance akin to Mahatma Gandhi's. The dire economic situation has prompted the monks to take on a more active role. This must have taken the military junta by surprise. Thus far, the military leaders prefer to give nominal support to the Buddhist monasteries possibly in the hope of redeeming their misdeeds? Even the most powerful mortals can be superstitious and do not wish to be reborn as lesser beings! Other religions such as Christianity and Islam were crushed when the military took over as these were seen as alien compared to Buddhism which is closely tied to Burmese traditions, submissive and pacifist. The government could not keep pushing the limits and expect no reactions. Despite the aura of fear instilled by the military, the monks are no longer afraid to protest. The soldiers who fire at unarmed monks have committed a great sin and retribution will come quicker than they expect, certainly in this lifetime and soon.

Buddhist Jihadist? The inferno monks of Vietnam in the 60's wanted to make a powerful statement to the western media. But they were not terrorist because they didn't go round blowing up innocent bystanders. Strictly speaking, self annihilation is unacceptable in Buddhist teachings. Their actions were driven by desperation.


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 Post subject: Myanmar's Intransigence
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The preconditions imposed by Myanmar's military junta betrayed their lack of sincerity in working out an acceptable solution to break the current impasse.

With the generals dictating the roadmap to protect their power and interests, the protestors are not making any headway in their demands for revision of consumer prices, release Aung San Suu Kyi and national reconciliation. The military said the Lady will not be released until a new constitution is approved by referendum.

The protestors have little bargaining power. External forces will need to up the pressure on the generals to be more reasonable.

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Snippets of the "detailed basic principles" of the charter appearing in state media point to little transfer of power to a civilian administration or autonomy for the former Burma's 100-plus ethnic minorities.

The commander-in-chief of the army will be the most powerful man in the country under the constitutional guidelines agreed at the national convention, with the power to appoint the ministers of defense, interior and border affairs. He will also be able to assume power "in times of emergency".


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 Post subject: Good Governance - Singapore Style
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Is MM Lee just sending feelers or are behind-the-scenes manoevurings underway for a peaceful settlement in Myanmar? However, he appeared to be implicitly warning the protestors to restrain themselves, a matter of factly predicting brutality. Concerned that well-behaved Singaporeans might take a leaf from the Burmese example.

MM Lee :
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The mass outrage has its roots in the failed Myanmar governance. What ASEAN should really do to help is to preempt such brutality from happening again, not being ambivalent and continue to speak for one side.

Has the Singapore leadership explored how may the clean and efficient model be transplanted onto Myanmar soil? An alternative to change from within & top down? It might be a good start to get things moving just to break the current stalemate.

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S'pore must distinguish itself by having better governance: MM Lee
By S Ramesh, Channel NewsAsia
04 October 2007 2131 hrs

Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew said Singapore has to continue to distinguish itself from its neighbours by having better standards of governance.

And key to achieving this is a corruption-free government. Otherwise, he said, Singapore will degrade and decline.

Speaking at a forum on "Singapore in the 21st century", attended by 1,800 Nanyang Technological University (NTU) students on Thursday, Mr Lee added that the situation in Myanmar looked "troublesome".

At the start of the forum, Mr Lee warned of the main setback for Singapore - unexpected turn of events.

He said because the prospects for the next 5-10 years are favourable to the country, Singaporeans tend to be complacent and ignore warning signs that things could go wrong suddenly.

"A first warning was the sudden drop in the Dow Jones Index of the New York stock market in August. The losses spread right across the world's stock markets. They recovered only when the US Federal Reserve Board reduced its discount rate by 50 basis points to boost confidence in the market and increase liquidity," said MM Lee.

"But the underlying problem has not gone away. The sub-prime mortgages problem is still not cleaned up. These were high risk loans to people who did not have the means to repay. Now there are nagging worries: commodity prices are rising - oil, gold, corn, wheat, iron, coal... Inflation is up.

"If the US consumer, suffering from reduced house values, loses his appetite for consumption, there will be a downturn in the US economy. That will affect the export-driven economies of China and the rest of East Asia."

While Asia looks promising, there are problems in the immediate region. Myanmar, he said, can be a destabilising factor.

Said Mr Lee: "ASEAN leaders realise that if we have volatile and unstable neighbours, they will destabilise the whole region. Hence the common reactions from ASEAN leaders, foreign ministers, presidents and prime ministers are that of sorrow and revulsion, that Myanmar's generals have again used armed forces against monks and civilians who are demonstrating peacefully because they are suffering from deprivation due to their poor economic conditions.

"ASEAN leaders know that if the situation in Myanmar continues to deteriorate, there must come a breaking point when much more brutal force will again be necessary to put their people down.

"We must try our best to help stabilise Myanmar. Singapore is at the very heart of Asean. An unstable Myanmar is a time bomb in the whole region."

Turning to the challenges that Singapore faces, Mr Lee said that when he and his colleagues started out, they did not know what branding meant.

All they knew was that Singapore had to be different from the way the neighbouring countries were being run, and that the country had to make up for the lack of resources to survive.

So Mr Lee said he and his team set out to build up a clean, corruption-free, secure and safe system, and a government which was effective and efficient, and one which welcomed investors and business.

"We had to get the big pieces right - national solidarity, not racial, religion or language strife. Hence the emphasis on racial and religious harmony, the mixing of all the races as we rebuild the city, with everybody sharing the same HDB blocks," said Mr Lee.

"We avoided clashes over languages. We would have brought troubles if we had chosen Chinese as our working language and thus disadvantaged the other races. We chose English - a neutral language with no special advantage to any race - as the working language, but we keep our mother tongues," he added.

As for the future, Mr Lee stressed that it depends on every Singaporean to realise that the country always has to be different.

Singapore has to have better governance compared to its neighbours. This will ensure that Singapore survives the competition against neighbours who have a wealth of natural resources, larger territories and bigger populations. - CNA /ls


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 Post subject: China Puts Pressure on Myanmar Regime
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China's condemnation of Myanmar military junta's crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrations in a statement by the United Nations Security Council is a significant step forward.

Stop playing games and get serious! That's probably the message China is trying to get across when it urged the military to "to free all political prisoners and arrested protesters and prepare for a 'genuine dialogue' with Aung San Suu Kyi 'to achieve an inclusive national reconciliation'".

Now the ball is in the military's court. China has nudged North Korea with some success and might be able to push the Myanmar regime to come to terms with the realities of international and domestic demands.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/china- ... 73931.html


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 Post subject: Will another Khin Nyunt Emerge to Save Burma?
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As a follow up to the article by Bertil Lintner on facing the enemy from within, would the emergence of another Khin Nyunt within the military ranks help to break the deadlock between the opposing sides -- the military versus intellectuals & monks backed by the people.

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But if change does come to Burma, it will be because of action taken by such younger army officers, not demonstrations led by monks. The protests can, at the most, perhaps influence sections of the army to realise there is no future in supporting the present regime. For, ultimately, there is no place in the modern world for an anachronistic and atavistic regime such as the warrior kingdom of Naypyidaw.


Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has since adopted a more balanced assessment on 27 September 2007 : that the "dumb generals will not be able to survive indefinitely" but needs to be included in part of the solution to the problems. I agree that the generals are short-sighted and not very smart indeed. Had they followed and persisted with Lee's advice, the generals would have the mandate to govern. It is unwise to go to extreme deprivation of the people for the ruling elite's absolute self interests.

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the army must be part of the solution to the problems facing their country, because if it is dissolved, all of Myanmar's administrative instruments will go with it and the country will have nothing with which to govern itself.

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Mr Lee said: 'These are rather dumb generals when it comes to the economy...

How they can so mismanage the economy and reach this stage when the country has so many natural resources?'

He noted that Singapore hoteliers, who had sunk millions of dollars in Myanmar on his advice, have now found their hotels empty.

Mr Lee disclosed that he has tried to advise the generals and take Myanmar out of its isolation, referring specifically to former junta member Khin Nyunt, who is now under house arrest.

MM Lee said: 'He's the most intelligent of the lot. I sold him the idea, or at least he bought the idea, that the way for them to go forward was to get out of uniform and do it like Suharto, form a party, Golkar and then take over as a civilian party.

'But halfway through, Suharto fell. So, it ended up as the wrong advice, they back-tracked. Then they chucked Khin Nyunt out.' [/b]


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 Post subject: Junior Officers Shaken
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:13 am 
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Internal rifts in the military may force the junta to push for changes.

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Myanmar military nears decisions on succession
Nirmal Ghosh
Fri, Oct 19, 2007

SENIOR General Than Shwe is firmly in charge of Myanmar's ruling junta, but change at the top level is imminent, and the job of the successor will not be as easy.

Gen Than Shwe, 70, the xenophobic head of the nation's State Peace and Development Council (SPDC), is known to be a shrewd and well-informed man, glued to the internet. His rise to the top level was a skilful manoeuvre by keeping peers and subordinates off balance by playing one against the other.

But, there are divisions between him and his deputy Gen Maung Aye, 70, over the use of Union Solidarity and Development Association (USDA) and Swan Arr Shin cadres - and then of soldiers - against monks and civilians.

The USDA, set up to eventually be a political party and form a puppet government - is Gen Than Shwe's baby, but Gen Maung Aye has kept away from it.

Hence, the successor will have to preside over a army with problems. Both the USDA and Swan Arr Shin comprise civilians, with the latter being mainly hired thugs and former convicts. The army has swelled to half a million men - but with deteriorating quality.

The gap between the army and the rest of the society is widening and experts believe that the recent shooting on the monks may have scarred the psyche of many junior officers.

But while the chances of an army collapse are thin, the need for change in Myanmar has to be come from young officers within the force.


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 Post subject: US Sanctions
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Is Singapore made the prime bogeyman for the "dirty money" some countries have profitted and shared with Myanmar's military? Three out of seven blacklisted companies for a small country would raise eyebrows. I believe there would be many more that are not among the blacklisted companies which would continue to have close economic ties with the condemned regime.

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Three Singapore-linked firms are among seven blacklisted by the United States under penalties imposed on Myanmar after its deadly suppression of pro-democracy protests.
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Singapore's Foreign Minister George Yeo told his hosts at a Myanmar Buddhist temple on Saturday evening that Asian countries could only do so much.

"While we in ASEAN have limited economic leverage, we do have a certain moral influence, because Myanmar is part of the ASEAN family," a transcript of his remarks, posted on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website ...

"There could be some companies registered in Singapore and then it would be under certain restrictions from the US."

According to President George W. Bush's order, the companies which are either based in or linked to Singapore are: Pavo Trading Pte Ltd, Air Bagan Holdings Pte Ltd and Htoo Wood Products Pte Ltd, which is also listed as being from Myanmar's main city, Yangon.

Singapore is the current chair of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), and is to host the bloc's summit in November.
The city-state has led regional criticism of the junta's crackdown last month, which killed at least 13 people. More than 3,000 were detained.
Singapore strongly denies allegations that it allows banks based here to keep illicit funds on behalf of Myanmar's secretive generals.

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 Post subject: Chaos if Military Falls
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"The transition to civilian rule is bound to be extremely difficult, given the fact that the country has not had a truly civilian government since 1962," says Bertil Lintner, one of several Myanmar experts who believe elements of the military would have to be retained to guide the country through such turbulent times.
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China, has stressed stability and a gradual transition over sudden regime change, a view shared by some of Myanmar's Southeast Asian neighbors.

Abruptly jettisoning the military, it is feared, would have dire consequences. There are too few qualified civilians left to run the country, and disbanding the army might imperil security, much as it did after Iraq's forces were sent home after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

"You've had, over the past 40 years, the army slowly become really not just a dominant state institution but practically the only state institution, even at the local level," says Thant Myint-U, author of a recent book on his homeland, "The River of Lost Footsteps."
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Not only does the 400,000-strong army wield the guns - turning them on a rebellious citizenry as it did in recent weeks - but it has taken over all major business enterprises and all but the routine tasks of government.

A state-within-a-state as well as a privileged class, the military provides its own with relatively good schools, health facilities, housing and jobs, while the public copes with a shattered infrastructure on less than $1 a day.

"Rebuilding these structures at the same time as easing the army out of its overall government role is an almost unprecedented task. It's hard for me to think of another situation in which that has happened peacefully," said Thant Myint-U, a former United Nations official.

Democracy may not find fertile soil in Myanmar, which has passed through a thousand years of feudalism, 124 years of British colonial rule and 45 years of military dictatorship, with a tumultuous, 14-year experiment in democracy sandwiched in between.

The last generation that participated in free elections is rapidly passing. Repeated crackdowns have decimated the ranks of younger pro-democracy activists, and many others are pursuing new lives abroad.

Although hugely popular inside Myanmar and internationally, the 62-year-old Suu Kyi remains untested as a political leader. Before emerging to lead an anti-government uprising in 1988, she had spent most of her life abroad, despite being the daughter of Myanmar's martyred founding father, Gen. Aung San. The Nobel Peace Prize laureate has spent 12 of the last 18 years under house arrest.

"She's probably the only person who could counsel patience and moderation and be able to bring a large part of the population with her," said Thant Myint-U. "This will be important for the transition, but beyond that it's impossible to know how well she would be able to cope with the challenges of day-to-day government."

Many among the educated in Myanmar fear these are bound to be legion - from the confrontational politics that marred the country's flirtation with democracy to a dearth of human capital in the wake of what critics consider one of the military's worst offenses: a "war on education."
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"Maybe that is what the military really wanted, the elimination of an educated population. Whether it was or not, that is what has occurred," said Josef Silverstein, a retired academic from Rutgers University who has studied Myanmar for more than half a century.

And it is uncertain whether members of the large educated Burmese exile community would return to the country should the junta fall - or how well they could integrate and contribute, says Thant Myint-U, an exile himself ... it's questionable whether the international community would offer effective assistance.
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Possibly the greatest challenge would be preventing fresh outbreaks of the insurgencies among ethnic minorities that have plagued modern Myanmar and served as one pretext for the military's clinging to power.
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"Look at Indonesia," says Lintner, author of several books on Myanmar. "Many feared a Balkanization after the fall of Suharto but, in the end, the transition went much more smoothly than expected. In Indonesia, democracy actually turned out to be useful for solving ethnic conflicts. Now, a liberally minded ex-general is president, so why not in Burma?"

The Associated Press.

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